The pastor our local congregation is the preaching elder and most Churches of Christ avoid the term, Pastor, when addressing their ministers. Who are the Free Will Baptists, and what do they believe? It is interesting that you refer to IFB as viewing divorce people as being inferior Christians and are forbidden to hold any leadership positions in the church looking to their Scofield Bibles for direction. Many of these, yes are extreme, be we also need to not be compromising in some areas. I dont have a boarden to preform any religious works. Independent Fundamental Baptist Again its too legalistic. Sermon Outlines The Bible-Believing Fundamentalist Scripture is Good! I can tell by your grammar and spelling that you arent very educated (just an observation not a judgment). Pastors daughter did my hair and cleaned my dress with baby wipes. 30 Then you say, If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would never have joined them in killing the prophets.. We dont think rational thought is dangerous. It was organized in Cicero, Illinois, U.S., in June 1930 as the successor to the American Conference of If you see buses full of kids of all ethnicities and backgrounds coming to worship together, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. I sought counciling to see if there was anything in the Bible that could give Hope to our relationship. Matthew 6:14-15 Tithing was around since before the Law of Moses. I love this!! Very few men are qualified to be pastors using your interpretation of scripture. What surprises me, though, is that he was ordained as a pastor and actually called to pastor DL Moodys church in Massachusetts as a divorced man. You might be an IFB if Your child has went to church there 3x a week, his whole life, but when he leaves the church, your to have nothing to do with them. There are a couple places but, they're all pretty much much secular and worldly. I will have to argue that while on vacation we just go to church somewhere else rather than dashing home. 42. The Baptist Fundamentals and Hermeneutics The IFB church I attend preaches cleaning the heart not performing works. I prefer Kjv! WebBaptists reject the notion of baptism of people who do not know what is happening to them, such as children. Anderson and other New IFB pastors have praised the Orlando gay nightclub shooting. I believe the Bible, and if you do not believe the Bible and hate what the Bible teaches, it is because your opinion is more important to you, than what the Bible says, and if that be so, then there is really no reason for you to go to church in the first place. What a typical, legalistic comment from Jason. Are these points form the KJV Bible or is it carved from the principles from scriptures. What Jesus did on the cross is for our salvation. Matthew 6:14-15 is a warning not a command. Its never spoken but up there to read. If you believe that the wine referred to in the Bible is nothing more than fruit of the vine (AKA grape juice), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 26. Many Christians believe some of these distinctives, but true Baptists believe them all. Independent Fundamentalist Baptists are a creepy, I had no idea that I, as an IFB, might be guilty of these things. What your pastor told you is extremely dangerous and silly. We also teach that one must hear the Word of God, one must believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, one must repent of your sins, one must confess that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, one must be baptized for the remissions of sins, and one must live faithful until death. 33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband. I grew up in a IFB school and then university, so I can totally relate. 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. If you think that the hymnal in the pew is inspired by God, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 23. I thought youd like that. Same pastor who says to his congregation I love you, we all love you here.and we will not judge you. You might be an independent Fundamental Baptist if. I must put it in Jesus Christ. as a former IFB, I read this.mmmmmm, mixing truth with deceptionI wonder the author uses, the same tactics as the serpent in the garden??? You might If you had one opportunity to send a lost love one time to any church , which would it be ? Its insidious and extremely toxic. 23 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Ive read all the comments posted so far, but I dont fall into many of those categories as an IFB and Ive been an IFB for almost 13yrs now. You are still required to tithe in the IFB regardless of your source of income. When you find Christ, you are a new creation and the spirit helps you to live a life that pleases Him, not us. The New Independent Fundamental Baptist network, most prominently associated with anti-LGBTQ pastor Steven Anderson, appears to be in turmoil as infighting again erupts, this time between Anderson and fellow pastors in the network. If you believe that all Catholics are going to hell, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 35. N/A I have to admit its a lot less work than actually thinking through things. I had my part. 16. If you think that three church services per week is the minimum and that you must attend all three every week, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 9. No one knew about the marriage except us. Only the KJV will be used in this group; If you think that more than one earring per ear for women is worldly, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 13. [4], Despite the website's claims that each church is independent, some followers and former followers of the New IFB have accused Anderson of having complete control over the organization and ejecting anyone who has a minor disagreement with him. Ask questions if you need to and Ill be happy to explain more. Southern Baptist Beliefs If you first came to church because Brother Dave or Brother Mike knocked on your door and invited you, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Some true, some not so much. In 1974 Kenneth Chrismans father passed away. Hypocrites! The reality is the ONLY TRUE CHURCH is the church that PRACTICES BIBLICAL TEACHINGS and NOT THAT OF MAN-MADE TEACHINGS because THEY ARE AGAINST THE BIBLE because I do ask the question that why there are so many churches. I was married when I attended before and now as a divorced woman, I know I probably would be looked down upon. If your church sings Just As I Am at the end of every service We sing that song once in a while since its a good invitational song. Me preferring the Kjv bible and believing its the inspired word of God is not incorrect. The only sin that is not forgivable is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. This is the same pastor who said, you can come and let us tell you how you can know how you can know for sure how you can make Heaven your home. I aint got any place to judge anyone because in all honesty i have messed up in life a lot. I do into great detail about why I believe the IFB is cultish in practice. From a biblical standpoint, Jesus is the ONLY mediator between God and Man and only Jesus can intercede us. People need Jesuswhats the big deal? 13 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. If you think that you can be a better Christian or have more favor with God with good performance, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 54. 16 Blind guides! Hes a different man today thanks to Gods grace in our life. I dont agree with the term, sowing discord with the brethren because I agree everything what the Bible teaches. If you believe that using guitars in church is too liberal, yet you listen to patch the pirate who uses guitars, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 14. If you believe that declining to spank your child is the equivalent to spoiling him/her, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist What is a Bible Baptist Church, and what do Bible Baptists believe. If you (like Jason) come to this site to criticize sarcasm by hypocritically using sarcasm, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. (Hello to all my fellow-tithers!!!) Most Christians believe everything in the Bible. If you think that reading a version of the Bible other than the KJV is a sin, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 18. Our path is narrow, must we fight amongst each other while we walk it? His son a child murderer. Jesus Christ is the mediator between God and man. Ive addressed the scriptures about tithing in my article and explain it using proper exegesis and hermeneutics. G.F.F. However, the churches are united by a number of doctrines. We believe education in the world is good, but the teaching of evolution needs to be addressed if the individual is a little kid as false doctrine. So spontaneous but like it was planned. Church membership is a necessary privilege for believers who follow Christ. In the past 25 years, Ive seen many children leave but very few come back. 33. In the last days, you will get churches like you have described in your initial post, but not all of them are the same. God divorced Israel but Not judah..Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of WHAT?? If you believe that everyone who opposes IFB doctrine is just bitter, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 48. A strong percentage of our funding comes through several hundred local churches who support Independent Baptist - RationalWiki This group is for fellowship, sharing of resources, devotional thoughts, posting of sermons, news of interest, ministry ideas, missionary/church links, KJV verse photos, and general edification. Members all so giving that it made me want to be a giving person. OK That list just brought back memories that I can thankfully laugh at now. We reject all cooperation with this movement. I remember a particular lesson in church about the rod and staff. 24. 20. If you believe that God cant use a divorced man and pull out your Scofield Bible to show why, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 39. I dare say it would be the one you enjoy making fun of. If you believe that perfection is something to strive for and/or attain this side of heaven,you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Im mocking IFB beliefs many of which arent scriptural. I like that about them and not just them but the whole church, because the company you keep will influence you. Whether u believe its talking about judah/Ephraim or not. Youre judgment of me by one blog post and its comments is typical IFB tactic. Yes, because he wants to spend a little time with his child. Everything is about Him, He is a jealous God. Lots of people at the church stoped what they were doing to attend. I agree some are or at least seem to be what most consider legalistic. I remember our pastor asking us if we could forgive each other, and praise the lord we forgave each other for the offenses committed against each other. I forgot to mention my concerns on some of the other beliefs of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Church: If you believe that clapping after special music is wrong because it gives praise to the performer rather than to God, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 16. [9][10] On the weekend of the third anniversary of the shooting, the New IFB held a "Make America Straight Again" conference at an Orlando-area New IFB church. WebNo denomination, governmental body, or religious hierarchy may dictate the church's beliefs or practices. If you want a discussion ask for one. Jesus will save you if you believe in your heart that he was raised from the dead and admit out loud that Jesus is your lord. We believe that eternal life is the present possession of every believer (John 6:37-40, 10:27-30; Romans 8:1, 38-39; I Corinthians 1:4-8; I Peter 1:4-5; Jude 1, 2). Generally its the Pastor, or Preaching Elder or Minister, that has to attend multiple services because he has to preach the sermon. Also, Im not mocking Biblical beliefs. If you believe going to the movies is a sin but not renting movies or watching them on TV, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 10. Its pure manipulation. We did 2 weeks of counseling and got married at the end of our last session. Some of these doctrines are as listed. Complete Guide to Christian Denominations: Understanding the History, Beliefs, and Differences by Ron Rhodes. At one point in my life I would have agreed with 45 of your 55 litmus tests, plus a few others. You should read my article on that: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/, Dont get me wrong but tithing is still scriptural, even within the New Testament. You had to wear a tie if you wanted to preach or preside over the Lords Supper. I can be more specific and categorize your list of 55 things to give some examples as you asked OGrodnik to do, but it wouldnt be to diminish what you and others have experienced. WebIndependent Fundamental Churches of America, fellowship of conservative, independent Christian churches stressing biblical truth. If youve been taught that robbing God (not giving 10% of gross income) is the special, one specific sin that will cause God to lift all protection of your life and allow satan FULL LIBERTY to destroy you. Im pretty sure it WAS/IS alcohol because the bible talks alot about not getting drunk with wine.also take a little wine, etc. We believe that Jesus Christ died for every man, and that each individual chooses to accept or reject the grace of God (Hebrews 2:9; I John 2:2). Webindependent Baptist, to place in the hands of members of independent Baptist churches to help them to know the meaning of church membership and to better understand the doctrines and polity of Baptists, and particularly the reasons why we are independent Baptists and not affiliated with one of the various and sundry organizations among I wonder sometimes if the pastor didnt hit one of your sins and instead of getting you under conviction, you just got angry. Oh yes, and he forgot the most important, essential factorrelated to KJV reliancevirtual ignorance of and illiteracy in biblical Hebrew and Greek!!!!!!!! For you say that it means nothing to swear by Gods Temple, but that it is binding to swear by the gold in the Temple. 17 Blind fools! And, aside from the ones you mentioned that are truly sinful (i.e, #17, #53), and the ones that are just inaccurate (i.e, #13, #16, #35), some of these are interesting picks to end up on the list. Section 1: General This is a sovereign and democratic independent fundamental Baptist church under the Lordship of Jesus Christ. If the people in your church are truly humble, forgive easily, and believe that everyone is worthy of grace, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. I already know where the IFB is coming from, I was indoctrinated in their dogma for 25 years. No, Baptist churches are not sinless because they are filled with forgiven sinners. Clapping after special is music is wrong because it gives praise to performers rather than to God That statement is wrong. This is assuming that the parable of the prodigal son is some kind of instruction on how to deal with a troubled child The Pastor leads, feeds, guides, and guards the church at the direction of Christ. Yes, I remember that. The verses you quoted are taken out of context and dont mean what you imply them to mean. Whether we worship with hymns or hands int he air praise and worship songs, we are all suppose to be on the same side. What is the Southern Baptist Convention and what do Southern Baptists believe? Believers in a free society should influence government toward righteousness, but should not make an unholy alliance for control, influence, or favors. We fellowship with sister churches of like precious faith and practice, and support missionaries sent forth by the authority of such churches. Jesus died for all, and if God is willing to forgive me because Jesus died for me than I will forgive another because Jesus died for them too. Apart from Him we can do nothing. They will trample the pearls, then turn and attack you. (Mat 22:37-40) Can you honestly say that this is of God. Id rather do the hard work than be a robot though. New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist - Wikipedia This is because we live in this flesh. hypocrite. Everyone has health issues. Pastor and his wife paid for reception, photographers, and and shower. If you think anything what the churches teach about salvation is easy believing this is not true in our congregation. Correction is my discernment. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. I will cut to the chase: my Pastor and his wife took a much needed vacation a few years ago. My pastor has never taught that man can forgive sins. We can joke around about a differing denomination that we dont agree with, but how we react to a situation that wasnt intended, also matters greatly. God knows the names of his children and for anyone to accuse another of security in Christ is hypocrisy. Hmmmmm interesting.I will bash ifb, while I mix truth and error interesting.. Nice going Steve Please read this article for more information: https://baptistdeception.com/reasons-for-not-accepting-the-kjv-as-gods-preserved-word-a-response-to-pastor-james-melton/, I hope that you left your church in good terms and that they knew how you felt and whoever was wrong to be revived and allow the precense [sic] of God to bring the individual to the norm in other words what christian ought to be not what men want to be.. For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: If one gives because they are forced, or constrained TO GIVE, that giving does not come from the heart, and God does not honor that kind of giving. I will say though having grown up in that environment, there was a HUGE sense of support from the congregation, I always knew that if I needed something, I had people surrounding me who would help. Womens should not wear pants This is not the case at my congregation. He wasnt saying that spanking is right or wrong, but that definitely extreme discipline and beating kids is not what the Bible teaches. If you confuse the KJV with the KJB, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 3. Wherever there are people, there is sin. LOL. Hey there. For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the lawjustice, mercy, and faith. And that boy who has grown up in Sunday School (because I brought him in my car every week) is now in 6th grade and has experienced the concept of unconditional love and promises that are kept things which would otherwise have been foreign. Ephesians 2:8-9 New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches (also known as the New IFB) or officially the New Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement are an association of conservative, King James Only, independent Baptist churches. Its about Jesus. Thank God for grace! Thats The Holy Spirit speaking to me. Gods people are the Jews.. from Jew-dajudah. If your your church funnels in the inner city kids via a bus ministry We dont have a bus ministry since the city of the church I go to is small. Hypocrites! Many of these are down right untruthful . 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brothers eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? I also KNOW the areas that Hes not pleased with as I choose to hold on to that which the Bible clearly states as sin. If you believe that declining to spank your child is the equivalent to spoiling him/her, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 31. THE LAST THINGS Now, I am a 25 year old women with 3 children a 4, 2, and 7 month old and my Husband is 26. If they are saved , I dare say they regret the day they walked into the very church you enjoy making fun of. I forgave him before he changed. I mean yeah, theres some truth to a lot of this. You can clap in church, we did that Mountain, the church I grew up though we didnt do it very often though. WebWe believe that Jesus gave Christians two ordinances: The Lords Supper and Baptism. If you consider it worldly and almost frightening if someone brings a different version of the Bible to church, and wonder what your Pastor would say if he knew, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. I will never forget that day that I sat in my pastors car and he prayed with me, he didnt know what was happening in my life, but he knew I needed someone to pray with and I could see it in his eyes. Those who judge people like that WILL BE judged the same way, PERIOD. Im sad to here that fellow Christians cant get along, and I will start praying for all Churchs to be revived.