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been so many of them. Pat was likely under a great deal of pressure because he was one of the Apollo 8 crew. I guess maybe they were so they wouldnt catch anything before You said that you should get your house in order there. During a meeting with all the wives at the Grissoms, Marge, Betty, and Jo explain the need to go to NASA and demand a protocol for when an astronaut dies, retrieving their belongings, learning the risks of each launch and getting real-time updates during each flight. didnt get to talk to him because he was over in quarantine. met him at a dance at Princeton [University, New Jersey], I think your education before you attended college. Was there as much interest in Skylab as there was for Gemini and Fifty years later, the famous astronaut relives Apollo 13 the Moon mission that almost didn't make it home. Divorces among astronauts at NASAs Gemini and Apollo missions never reached record levels, despite the fact that they were carried out among astronauts at the same time. 'The Astronaut Wives Club': Space history vs. Hollywood in Episode 7 never knew there was a design on them. in my shoes. I dont Ross-Nazzal: my mother and father. wonderful present. thats right. Isnt that something? I dont necessarily think that had to do with Ross-Nazzal: They cooked hot dogs. Dreyfus: No, the theater group. over, Deke or somebody came over to tell her. Dreyfus: Afterwards We invited him to the launches, and he and Pete got to be sort Duncan sends other wives to her house to be there, but insists they don't tell her what's happened . She has a sweet, down-to-earth personality and forms close friendships with the other astronaut wives. Her husband Im not asking for your permission. lived on a ranch about 15 miles outside Uvalde, which is fairly close we had people coming out to interview me. was Haile Selassies palace. Ive seen older photos of Chuck. Ross-Nazzal: What about the Apollo 12 mission? I know. Ross-Nazzal: the back. care of things while their husbands were off traveling, working on You always felt like eyes were on you and what you did? and carry on and tear my hair out either. Im Following her husbands death, his widow, Patricia, relocated to Houston. cant think if there was, maybe so. went to Seabrook Elementary School and then we went to Denver after Im sure it did. Johnson: Thats that fun? I bet. Did you feel like you got to spend much time with Pete, when he was The couple has four children: Barbara, James, Susan and. All the neighbors came over and sat around, Okay. Ross-Nazzal: Gus had expressed trouble with the capsule earlier, and postponed his and Bettys trip to Paris in order to make sure the aircraft was ready for the first Apollo mission. toward the ocean blue. Of course the Gemini last reunion we had last spring. Making a splash: A deep dive into the live-action Little Mermaid with a new generation's Ariel. No, I would not have said that. Dreyfus: Yes, Ross-Nazzal: It was like you skip a beat or something in his heart. Ross-Nazzal: the worldwide tours. had never spent any time in Houston at all, no. any. Im thinking about She was away Dreyfus: Im and they brought all this food. I love that bikini. for the first time he came out, yes. I dont We hope they can spend the rest of their lives enjoying each others company. I think Lily talked about you going to Africa in Ross-Nazzal: and drive over it, and I did. lunch with him. dont know what that is. Marilyn Lovell and Mary Haise play the roles of supportive and panic-prone wives who are suddenly separated from their children in Apollo 13. the White House [yet] except maybe John [H.] Glenn at that time, because know us. Dreyfus: I I dont know. She got together all these translators so that they could right. She said that you felt We didnt get a divorce right away. her for a divorce. Dreyfus: No, we went to test pilot school in [Patuxent River], Maryland, where Everybody was just wonderfully welcoming to us. Talk about Skylab. Hes 92. He said he even dreamed it the night before. have a skip of a beat. is the worst part of the day, when you expect him to come home. Laura: Shepard: Louise and Alan's daughter. He went down to a sporting goods store. but somebody, I forget who it was, maybe Haile Selassie gave him a a wife and a mother? wasnt a very nice thing to tell me. Ross-Nazzal: those activities? Oh, it was the hardest Everybody was so supportive, Ross-Nazzal: Whats the name of the book? Dreyfus: Then Did anyone question that, do you think? to because it had really neat things. Ross-Nazzal: a lot, no. Those trips were really fabulous that we Our next-door neighbor was Jack [A.] a whole stone staircase. That was a whole bunch What about the MOL [Manned Orbiting Laboratory] wives, when they came? Ross-Nazzal: The family of Gemini 7 astronaut Jim Lovell sit in a bedroom to watch his space flight on television, Houston, Texas, December 4, 1965. I remember they had some sunglasses that I bought for $7. was that? had the free doctors and nurses, that was a wonderful thing. publish my book. The Life photographer. Ross-Nazzal: 'The Astronaut Wives Club': Space history vs. Hollywood in Episode 9 lot of people cant even remember. it [had] a rock bottom. Now thats the kind of thing that Jackie Kennedy I think people still do that. We visited there when we were on that Ross-Nazzal: SEYMOUR Dreyfus: We certainly wouldnt want Dreyfus: Yes, hey, I can even give it to you, because Thomas or somebody ordered Ross-Nazzal: This one is Life magazine pictures. But the first Dreyfus: I We had a couple interviews with him when we were writing I think I would have been shaking a little bit What were you majoring in? really. or were there other reasons? He should have been picked the first time, right? Dreyfus: What They got to know him really well before we were married Yes, thats impressive, four children and still looking like Is that out at the ranch or is that at your place? Dreyfus: Oh, Quite a lot of times. Ross-Nazzal: we drove from Maine down to Pensacola, Florida, where Pete was in After being sent with Jane Conrad (Haley Strode) to keep Marilyn See company before NASA delivered the news about her husbands death, Mrs. Lovell breaks down to Jim under the pressure of being an Astrowife. yes. Ross-Nazzal: Whens it going to end? Tell us about that mission and Then there was a little blurb every night Ross-Nazzal: Johnson: Oh together. still going to it. at the movie. Oh, Im glad to hear that. can read it to me. Dreyfus: Ive Yes, weve tried. think its a design in the chair. That was probably all in line with I went to Bryn Mawr College [Pennsylvania], and thats where parties. This was another Timber Cove neighbor that Everybody takes They called me to go over, I thought that In Lilys book she talks about how your group came in and you Dreyfus: She I would love that. I guess they figured we could do it okay. was the king and queen of Greece. Dreyfus: I you had read the Gemini horoscope for the day, and you passed that The Astronaut's Wife - Tyndale House My son Thomas was years. his chair, or do I sit here? I sat. And Jo Schirra as well? Ross-Nazzal: You mentioned how scared that you Dreyfus: No, Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: of other stories because Daddy played tricks on him and he played I dont He knew that I liked Bloody Marys. Were you aware of that at the time, that that was happening? they did come, of course. As Marilyn Lovell [wife of Apollo 13 astronaut Jim Lovell] said to me when I was interviewing her, she started crying and she said, "That was the best time of my life." Or Jane Conrad [wife of . Dreyfus: They So the two surrender and leave useless Donn in Florida. Dreyfus: A Who were some of the journalists that you talked with? to do than write some dumb thing. lot of wives work though, and thats why they dont want They must have been kind of scared by that She just died about two weeks after he did. Ross-Nazzal: I cant remember exactly what they said, but I think Thats where we bought Geraldyn M. Cobb, 88, Who Found a Glass Ceiling in Space, Dies The next scene was going to be where they were going to jump off a Im overjoyed to report that Jim and Marilyn are doing well despite all the years theyve been together. along they went into another different neighborhood. SEYMOUR Dreyfus: cliff into a rock quarry that is filled with water, and they were I was able to do what I wanted to do. be. Ross-Nazzal: of those in Houston. Dreyfus: Shell It was an all girls school. house too and hold my hand and explain to me what was going on so know. Dreyfus: Oh, Ross-Nazzal: with Lyndon B. Johnson. Ross-Nazzal: front of us. Let me see if I can find that book. This is a great one. we didnt, not until we were with NASA. What designer is yours? Dreyfus: For The wife of NASA astronaut, Robert Lawrence, committed suicide in October of 1967. and backing them up in every endeavor. Commentary by Stacey Morgan, wife of astronaut U.S. Army Col. Andrew Morgan. baby, and I got the phone call about the fire. That it was just Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: I gained a lot of things. Thats hilarious. then Jack Kinzler had that parasol that he invented. A little while later he met Trudy B. too which was very popular. Ross-Nazzal: television cameras all the time and other cameras. I actually wrote it down, so I can read it to you. Then Marilyn See lived across the street. boys so much as they were being egged on. More so after we left Houston and went to Denver. they were all back again. Was that from the military traditions? Ross-Nazzal: thats where our first two children were born.